My take on the VP Debate

Watched the debates Thursday night. (Yeah, I do the politics thing!) Hardly as entertaining as I thought it would be. I would've much rather watch Tina Fey and Steve Martin do a parody. One thing does burn me up, though. I think it is insulting to women everywhere that Sarah Palin was somehow considered successful for not falling on her face. As much as women don't like the glass ceiling, we should despise the closer tee. Low expectations are as dangerous as limited opportunity. If she's going to be in the race for vice president, we need to apply to her the same standard as we would a man. We should expect the same level of intelligence and the same command of the issues as we would from any other candidate. Why? Because we can meet it! When Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama went at it in the Democratic Primary, nobody was saying, "Wow, Hillary isn't making mistakes! She can win!" The stride she made was that she proved we can go toe-to-toe, we can be as capable and knowledgeable as any man. I respected Obama because he never tried to belittle her or act as if he expected anything else. A woman meeting the same academic or professional standard as men is normal! (And to all of you trying to apply this to my arguments for the WNBA -- this isn't about dunking, this is about mental aptitude and political expertise.) A woman not making herself look stupid is not an accomplishment! The fact that Sarah Palin didn't implode at the podium is not a victory. That's like somebody saying I had a good game because I didn't double-dribble. Or being surprised when a Black man "speaks so well." Or Sue Bird accusing me of not knowing the meaning of unevolved and antiquated. LOL Sorry. That whole hooray-she-didn't-fall-on-her-face bit just pisses me off a little. Anyway, there were some highlights, though: *Sarah Palin was a gangsta. She came out practically from the get-go and punk'd the moderator and Biden. "I ain't answering yo questions, fool!" I can't believe they let that go. I would've kept asking her the same question. Why agree to a debate if you're not going to, uh, debate? She should've at least explained why she was different from Bush when Biden went on that tirade about McCain being the same as Bush. *Biden choking up talking about his kids was deep. Something about seeing a grown man cry, or on the verge of tears, is touching. Well, not any grown man. It's always some dude crying on Project Runway and, somehow, it doesn't tug at the heart strings. While we're talking about tears, it is kind of shady that when Biden cries, it's accepted as genuine and moving (and no disrespect to him, what he went through has to be painful still). But when it was a woman, such as when Hillary Clinton caught a little fur ball in her throat during the primaries ? actually, it wasn't even choking up as much as it was a sudden switch to a somber tone ? it's a sign of weakness! What if Palin had choked up? The Sandman woulda came on stage with a cane and yanked her off and asked her if she was on her period! It just amazes me, the double standard. *Those winks into the camera were a knee-slapper. What was that? I felt like I just got holla'd at in the mall, like she wrote her number on my hand outside of Cinnabon and the wink was the goodbye. C'mon, Mrs. P! This is the presidential arena here. The winking and the Joe Six-Pack lines make you sound like the prep jock running for Student Body President. This debate was the time to show them you are also intellectual and intelligent. We know the hockey mom, pit bull with lipstick, moose-hunting stuff. You missed a chance to show us more. In fact, you probably made yourself a little too down home. Nuff politics for now. Check out the WNBA Finals. Game 3. Going down tomorrow night.

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hoopsdreams said October 04, 2008

I had a grandfather who was raised on a farm. Lived through the depression and died a millionaire. He was not the most eloquent in speech but his "home spun" wisdom was something to be treasured. His pragmatic and humble approach to life was very refreshing.
I don't know if Palin's folksy delivery is a show or if that is just who she is. If that is who she then I would rather have her be genuine then to try and pretend to be something she is not. It certainly has little to do with her ability to lead or contribute.
I agree that HIlary was not treated fairly. It was almost an approach of ,"let's wait for her to screw up or get emotional like a woman." If anything I liked seeing that side of Hillary as she seemed so mechanical to me. Regarding the double standard it all boils down to reputation. Women are perceived to be more emotional then men. I don't know if I would agree with that. I think they "express" their emotion more than men. Women traditionally go to tears to cope and men go to anger, not wanting to deal with their emotions. However, anger is being "emotional" just as crying is. Just expressed differently.
I really enjoy reading your blog. You are very passionate and articulate. Please keem em' coming!
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mercfan3 said October 04, 2008

Hahaha..
I don't think the Palin "not falling on her face" thing, was anything to do with women though. It most likely has to do with Palin..she had some bad moments with Katie Couric, and it was important for Palin to not fall on her face.
comparing her to Hillary is a little unfair, Hillary's actually a good debater and tends to make anyone she's debating look foolish..*unless they just sit there and agree with her..sorry, had to take the jab at Obama* I would have loved to have seen VP Barbie go up against Hillary, just because of how funny it would be. Senator Clinton would have torn Sarah apart. :D
Speaking of Obama, he needs to get more cutthroat in these things. We all know he's smarter than McCain, he needs to show it. Stop blabbering, stop conceding points, and hit him hard.
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Justwannawinna said October 04, 2008

VOTE OBAMA and gluck on on your GAME
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Boomdodger1 said October 04, 2008

You need to marry me girl! Took the words right out of me mouth. What pissed me off was how they was focusing on the man/woman talking points instead of other issues b/c that just plays into her whole soccer mom thing and pulls in the women voters. You didn't see that during the presidential debate. You want to throw it down and be fair then let's talk about the black/white thing!
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Spotella said October 04, 2008

Funny, I was looking more at Biden and Palin and one thing that struck me terribly was Palin not being able to look at Biden for more then a few seconds before turning away. I don't know if she was disinterested or fearful of Biden but I'm not so sure that's the type I want in my White House.
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jakobkagel said October 04, 2008

LOL VOTE OBAMA

college basketball 24/7

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JASON323_310 said October 04, 2008

SHE SAID MAVERICK AND REFORM LIKE A MILLION TIMES RIGHT!!!! HAHA
I HEARD THAT MOST WNBA,NBA,AND NFL PLAYERS WERE VOTING FOR OBAMA? IF THAT'S TRUE HIT ME BACK!!!

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- woodsey44 replied October 04, 2008
  
  and Biden repeated how McCain and Bush are the same people. over and over....I didnt hear Biden expaining how they were different either btw. and Biden could have been more respectful when speaking about McCain. Calling him John the whole time made him look inconsiderate and disrespectful, he could of at least taken the effort to say Senator McCain. come on.
  - tigernike23 replied October 05, 2008
    
    That's pathetic, how many times have I heard "rumors" of Barack being a Muslim? That's disrespectful.
    - woodsey44 replied October 06, 2008
      
      Last I heard this was politics not religion. Being religious in any way, shape, or form isn't disrespectful. Is being Muslim a bad thing?
- tigernike23 replied October 05, 2008
  
  She could've made a drinking game out of it. Every time she says "maverick"...
  - GSWgirl replied October 06, 2008
    
    http://www.palinbingo.com/
  - woodsey44 replied October 06, 2008
    
    Or everytime Biden tried to be funny and wasn't....
mrbecker712 said October 04, 2008

The idea McCain won't survive his first term is the lamest scare tactic liberals use. Beyond that, Palin is even more qualified than Obama to be president. Why? She has executive experience. Obama has community organizer experience, and "senate" experience during which time he spent more time writing books than pieces of legislation. TO say she's a racist and her husband is a traitor is inexcusable unless you have proof. I highly doubt you do.

Yet you like Biden, because why? He didn't even know when FDR served, thinks us paying taxes is "patriotic", and was proven to have lied outright 10 times during the debate Tuesday.

Sure, go ahead and vote Obama. Enjoy your higher taxes, your government susidized health care with lesser doctors. Enjoy your socialistic values of wealth redistribution.
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- JASON323_310 replied October 04, 2008
  
  MRBECKER712.. WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT??
  
  YOU BEEN READING TO MUCH OF THAT OBAMANATION! LMAO
- jfranzen replied October 05, 2008
  
  How do you know spluffy is a liberal?
  How do you know Biden was lying? That does require, after all, special knowledge of intent.
  
  Will the doctors in an Obama administration really be different than the doctors in a McCain presidency?
  
  How about your scare tactic? The better doctors will renounce their citizenship or stop practicing medicine and we'll only have lesser ones.
  
  Regarding socialism, Reagan said the same thing about medicare 50 years ago. and we still don't have socialism. Scare tactics. Ironic that you would toss that accusation out and then do it.
  
  I haven't even mentioned your irresponsible reiteration of one of the more shallow Rovian claims that "Obama spent more time writing books than pieces of legislation." Obama has "sponsored" (few senators "author" legislation due to the presence of PAC and corporate lobbyists) over 100 bills and resolutions.
  
  I may not agree with spluffy, but I'm pretty sure I won't be turning to you for guidance either.
  
  Let's proffer opinions that are fact based, and not make a mockery of US democracy with propaganda.
Smootho21 said October 04, 2008

You said it good diana... She pisses me off. She acts like this is some kind of joke. And a lot of ppl that support her do to. She is running for the second highest office in our country not the town fair. She did not win the debate she barely answered any questions. Why does she keep tellin us about small town values. wat damn values? the rest of america doesnt have the same kind of values... cuz ure a hocky mom with a weird accent you got small town values? Last time i checked your own daughter is havin a baby...some good values you put in her. stop acting like you better then the rest of us. shes the female version of G.Bush with less experience.
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Smootho21 said October 04, 2008

MrBecker...your a tool. of course we are gonna have higher taxs wheather mccain or obama gets it. Wit the economic bailout and other things going on where do you think its gonna come from.
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- JASON323_310 replied October 04, 2008
  
  THANK YOU!!
  
  LIKE.. I DONT CARE WHO YOU'RE VOTING FOR AS LONG AS WE KEEP THESE REPUBLICANS OUT OF OFFICE I'M ALL FOR IT!!
Mattyboy said October 04, 2008

Dude, Tina Fey is killing Palin on SNL doncha know!
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Smootho21 said October 04, 2008

lol damn i just missed it

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mrbecker712 said October 04, 2008

I like the Obama supporters...how many pieces of legislation did he write? None. How many BOOKS? Two. He takes a 1 week tour of Europe during his campaign, and NOW he suddenly knows foreign policy? Commmmeee onnnn people. Wake up!

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- JASON323_310 replied October 04, 2008
  
  HOW MANY TIMES HAVE JOHN MCCAIN FOUGHT FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE? I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE RICH I'M TALKING ABOUT THOSE THAT ARE LIVING IN WAR ZONES RIGHT NOW!!! I'M TALKING ABOUT THOSE THAT ARE LIVING IN POVERTY RIGHT NOW!!! YOUR PRESIDENT.. GEORGE BUSH HASN'T DONE ANYTHING TO HELP US OUT!!! NONE AT ALL CRIME RATES UP!!! JOB LOSS IS UP!!! EVERYTHINGS UP.. I'M SICK OF IT!!!! AND ALL THE REPUBLICANS CAN SAY IS " O.. WELL OBAMA WILL RAISE YOUR TAXES" GET THE BUCK OUT OF HERE MAN!!!!
- jfranzen replied October 05, 2008
  
  actually, go to senate.gov
  
  they have the official records and you'll see very simply that you are repeating a web-rumor.
tikitmb said October 04, 2008

I most definitely will vote for Obama. Since I as well as most Americans don't bring in an average of 250,000 I'm not too worried taxes under Obama will be higher than taxes under McCain. I'm also looking forward to Obama's health plan, if successful every American would have healthcare equal to those of the senate. Theirs are not subsidized and their doctors are I dare say better than yours I'm sure.

I look forward to an America that takes care of ALL their people despite their social, economic, racial, and gender status. It only can make us stronger, in the eyes of the world they can finally see us as true leaders that lead by example not dictators whose moral compass seems to be lead more often than not by greed and politics.
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AlanaG said October 05, 2008

Excellent points, DT, I was having the same exact thoughts!!
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ekimswish said October 05, 2008

It's funny that universal health care can be deemed extreme, but walking on the moon and building bombs big enough to wipe out entire countries isn't. I can't vote cuz I'm not American, but I live overseas and don't wanna see America invade Iran without at least talking to them first (trash talk don't count). McCain and Palin get America into Iran, China and Russia covertly and overtly support Iran, tensions rise with Pakistan, India gets ready, North Korea, South Korea, Japan, and Taiwan get ready..... and suddenly everybody's kung-fu fighting. World War 3 ain't so far away if Iran's invaded.
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- Spotella replied October 05, 2008
  
  Which is why we need to keep the War Mongers out.
hoopla said October 05, 2008

Hey Dee, when I first read the title of this new post, my first reaction was..."oh, this is gonna be good!" You didn't disappoint! Anyway, some thoughts:

If this country were coming off of eight years of peace and prosperity (like we were in the 2000 election) then maybe this whole 'folksy' Palin character would appeal to more people. But these are SERIOUS times we are living in right now. Our country is at a crossroads. Things ain't looking too good. Forgive me for not finding all this Joe Six Pack, soccer mom, maverick, "Say it ain't so, Joe" BS cute. For everyone that keeps saying that Palin is just "keepin' it real," in the words of Chris Rock..."yeah she's keepin' it real...real dumb."

Another great post, DT. Keep 'em coming :-)
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bballfan said October 05, 2008

Sorry Dee, but I beg to differ on the wink and the joe six pack line. You see, out of the four candidates running, Sarah Palin is the ONLY one who hasn't been completely tainted by Washington. She is down to earth and she is real. I personally think that people who are not blind party followers can connect with that. Any way, love the new do...:)

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- Spotella replied October 05, 2008
  
  She herself said she doesn't know how Washington works and though I would love Washington to change it's ways, I'm realistic and understand it's NOT going to happen over night or even in four years.
  Do you really want someone in there that doesn't know how to handle things????.
- BookerT replied October 05, 2008
  
  im with u on Sarah Palin keeping it real. but i like how she favors people in her family, I would do the same thing....people need to get off her ovaries if ya ask me, sure she aint the smartest politician but she is down to earth and human...
- caune0405 replied October 11, 2008
  
  Would you wink during a job interview, LOL?
  Because she did, five times, sooo wrong!
  
  and now that troopergate report #1 is out it looks like she'd fit right in in Washington :O
bballfan said October 05, 2008

No Spotella, there you go....Did she say she doesn't know how to handle things? I think that her record running the state of Alaska shows that she can handle things.

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- Spotella replied October 05, 2008
  
  No bballfan, I said "SHE HERSELF SAID" Did you see the debate? It was on there she admitted to it.
- BookerT replied October 05, 2008
  
  Alaska is a nice place dont get me wrong (lots of land, nice feefle, nature, and bears) but the population at 700 K is nothing compared to managing 260+ million, which a VP should be doing...
  
  notice how her face is perfectly done via Botox and underneath is Tommy Tutone color skins....But I love her glasses
  - Spotella replied October 05, 2008
    
    I didn't want to point out the scarce population, but I' so happy someone did!!!!
    
    Amazing that someone who is "for" her would add that caption to a post. It's comical!
  - woodsey44 replied October 05, 2008
    
    does it really matter what she looks like?
    - BookerT replied October 05, 2008
      
      no it doesnt, your insinuating stuffs. i waS just commenting on the pic....but shes beautiful for her age if ya ask me....
    - Spotella replied October 05, 2008
      
      I agree totally with Booker. Her looks do not matter, it's just who would attatch THAT photo to a post?
  - bballfan replied October 05, 2008
    
    Deleware population:864,764
    Alaska population:683,478
    
    Difference 181,286. Wow what a big difference.
    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=state+population&aq=f&oq=
    
    The difference is she is the one who has been in her state actually running things and make decisions. And Spotella, I know that she said she was a Washington outsider. You ask me if I wanted someone who doesn't know how to handle things? I answered you. The picture was just an added bonus....;)
    - Spotella replied October 05, 2008
      
      I have to tell you bball, though my mind is not completely made up, continuing to see that picture is giving her less and less of a chance of getting a vote from me.
Smootho21 said October 05, 2008

Palin as a person doesnt bother me...the fact that she is running for vice president does. She has said in the past that she doesnt even know what a VP does. She has been running things in Alaska which is one of the least populated and least diverse place in our country. How would she have our best interest in mind. its not that i dont think she knows whats going on in the rest of America. she keeps referencing how she is a hockey mom like there are a billion hockey moms in the us. I know ppl will say this is a scare tactic but if something god forbid happens to McCain i do not want her representing our country. She is the female version of Bush. I do not want an idiot as our president again. We need someone who is confident and knows how to carry themselves. ...p.s how sweet would it have been if Clinton went against Palin....damn Clinton would of destroyed her. Clinton would of called her out and asked her to stop changing the subject and answer the questions given to her
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- Spotella replied October 05, 2008
  
  Very smoothly well put Smootho!
Smootho21 said October 05, 2008

lol thanks spotella
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BrockSamson said October 05, 2008

"we should despise the closer tee."

Best summation I've heard.
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Zukny1 said October 05, 2008

I havent yet heard the debate, but reality is Vice presidents are picked up to make the canidate stronger ( they really arent that important except to get votes )

She is there to win the Evangelical vote ( christian vote ) Mccain had a problem landing the conservatives because he is so liberal in their eyes.

On another note she is hot as hell and i want her body
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- Spotella replied October 05, 2008
  
  She is also there to get the female vote, hence McCain waiting to see whou Barak picked before making his final choice.
  With McCain's age a VP is much more important, though there are many people these days that live to be 80 or 90 or even 100, his age is an issue. (As sad as that is). I understand, even a 30 year old can pass away but you have to play the numbers here. Look how much each president has aged during their presidency in the last 30 + years. I'm not so sure McCain has it in him to sustain that aging. I could be wrong, but I'm playing the numbers, so his VP is an important pick to me. That brings up the question of whether she will hold to his political values or will she stick to hers. I'm not sure. It's all things people must think about.
  - Spotella replied October 05, 2008
    
    *who
mercurylover said October 05, 2008

I am with you on the Sarah Palin thing. I find it incredible insulting that this woman is getting so much attention and mostly because she was a beauty queen and she has cute glasses that supposedly make her look sexy. It is the standard we see all the time. For a woman to be powerful she has to be sexy. People didn't like Clinton because many viewed her as too harsh and manly. However, Hilary is a very smart, educated woman who worked hard to get to where she is at. What did Palin do to deserve where she is other than be a woman and look good. Just another example of a man using a woman to get what he wants and it makes me sick!
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YUPIMCOOOL said October 04, 2008

OBAMA BABY! He's sooooooooo cute!!
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csmhnv said October 04, 2008

Gov Palin came off as being real not a fake. She spoke from her heart and it was a breath of fresh air compared to Biden spouting off a bunch of number which was really boring. As for the tear jerking moment from Biden. He has used his first wife and daughters' death as a political move. I personally find that disgusting. He even went so far during several campaign event to say his wife was hit by a tractor trailer driver who had consumed a liquid lunch but that he didn't pursue it. He didn't pursue it because his wife pulled out from a stop sign directly into the path of the tractor trailer. The accident was her fault. The tractor trailer driver was never charged with anything. Now that the tractor trailer driver is dead he accuses him of being drunk. Why would he fabricate the truth about the accident other than for political gain. As for his being a single parent that was for about 31/2 yrs before he started dating his present wife. His tears frankly pissed me off because my husband was actually hit by a drunk driver and is now disabled. I'd be more sympathetic towards him if he hadn't been such a liar and used his dead wife, daughter and injured sons for political gain. The liberal media has been so quick to point out anything that Palin said that was wrong but doesn't say anything about Biden and his mistakes. The fact that Biden continues to mention his living in Scranton is a joke. He hasn't lived there for since 1953. He has lived in Delaware since then. That is 55 yrs in Delaware compared to 11 in Scranton. He would have been like in 4th grade when he moved. I live about 35 miles from Scranton, we shop at the Steamtown mall. I don't remember Biden ever mentioning Scranton before he was picked as the VP running mate. Believe me BIden doesn't act like anyone around this area cause we are gun toting and religious clinging people. We are memebers of the NRA. Oh and Scranton isn't so wonderful. It has its fair share of drugs, murders and crime...a lot of folks around here don't like Scranton cause of the crimes in the area.
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indus1 said October 04, 2008

It wasn't a debate at all. Palin ignored most questions and delivered her lines in seemingly some related manner. Her mannerism was aggressive and I am certain she won over plenty of people who prefer style and delivery over content. Biden responded to questions on the most part, but was too meek initially - responding to Palin's assertions only late in the proceedings. It was like watching a weaving machine where threads seem to intermingle and form some oddball pattern. Call it modern art, if you wish! The moderator was entirely ineffective: none of the questions was off the beaten path, and she couldn't care less whether responses were even vaguely related to the questions asked. Her only interest seemed to be to go through her list of questions; ask them, close her ears to what was being said in response, and then move over to the next question to get through the night.
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mrbecker712 said October 04, 2008

Palin's gonna be a heck of a VP. McCain's gonna be a heck of a prez. WHy would anyone vote Obama?

Palin not falling on her face wasn't the issue. It was more about her being REAL with America, something none of the other politicians in this race seem to really have. She was scripted during many of her interviews, and that's not why America likes her.
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- guttersnype replied October 05, 2008
  
  Watching the debate I remember thinking, wow some people are actually buying what this woman says. I see that you are one of those people.
- oflarity replied October 05, 2008
  
  I don't mean this to be a lean one way or the other with regard to my political views, but I think it's ridiculous that someone's getting voted down just because they seem to side with McCain/Palin
  - jfranzen replied October 05, 2008
    
    But these votes don't matter. A simple clicking of the thumbs down icon seems a great way to register disagreement. It's probably the integer in bright red that makes it feel ridiculous.
  - Spotella replied October 05, 2008
    
    I agree with you here oflarity. No reason to thumb people down, it's an opinion and if you open your mind and listen (in this case read) what people have to say you may learn something.
gunaxin said October 04, 2008

It was hideous, people gave her too much credit because she set the bar so low from her interviews.
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justice33 said October 05, 2008

If she's going to be in the race for vice president, we need to apply to her the same standard as we would a man. (OK then, blame the media for that, not Palin. I didn't hear her crying I'm just a girl.)
That's like somebody saying I had a good game because I didn't double-dribble. Or being surprised when a Black man "speaks so well." (Did Palin believe she was a success because she didn't fall on her face or was that the media's opinion. And where did the whole black man speaking well thing come from? Did Palin insinuate that black men could not speak well?)
Didnt get to watch the whole thing so if I missed something, let me know.
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djay53 said October 05, 2008

You know what's going wrong with America, too many winers and not enough workers. I've been reading your posts and it scares me. You don't take responsiblilty for yourself and your actions. You want someone else to pay your way through college, to buy a house, the pay your health insurance. How many of you have worked your way from the bottom trenches of a job to become successful? You don't need a college degree for that, you need pedigree. That's what's missing, the newer generation "expects" everything to be handed to them while our makers earned it. And to think you get a vote in this election! Do your parents proud and stand on your own two feet.
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- Pinkpanthrrr replied October 06, 2008
  
  WHO PAYS? It sounds like you have a very unrealistic view of reality. How about those people WHO DO WORK!! How about almost everyone in america??!!! They work. Do you seriously think people are not working in this country and expect handouts? What about these CEO's that are handed everything? why do they get the handout? Because they make people work for nothing? So people can't get affordable healthcare housing, educations...and then they "expect" something? How about we expect to have the right to live without getting ripped off by people like you who think they are actually "doing" something for this country?? youre a fake.
Zukny1 said October 05, 2008

and i have to ask....... does anyone really know what the VP does?

al-gore didnt do shit
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- caune0405 replied October 05, 2008
  
  Al Gore didn't do shit?
  Honey were you there?
  Maybe you were the rug or something?
  He met with President Clinton every freakin mornig, attended every important policy meeting and contributed invaluable insight...all without taking away any of our civil liberties or shooting anyone in the face..That's good work!
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mrbecker712 said October 05, 2008

Exactly...all Al Gore has done is invent the internet (hahaaa) and use the global woarming theories as a scare tactic to help sell his book. He himself uses a ridiculous amount of energy in his Nashville home. Same with the rest of the Hollywood elitests. Problem is, they don't practice what they preach.

Look, I know my views are unpopular on here. I know that McCain will likely lose the election because he's a Republican, and right now, America associates Republicans with Bush. But if we're comparing president-elects head to head, McCain has more experience and leadership than Obama. People want to trash Palin for her inexperience, but she's 2nd on the ticket. Obama doesn't have much more experience than her, and he's #1 on the ticket.

Regardless, the important thing is that you get out a vote. If you don't, you have no right to complain about any president or vice-president.
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- Pinkpanthrrr replied October 06, 2008
  
  you are the reason there is no progress. Yeah, Iknow, who needs polar bears and glacier ice caps right?
hoopla said October 05, 2008

Check it out...the Sarah Palin Debate Flow Chart! It's hilarious...

www.adennak.com/archives/palinflow.gif
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caune0405 said October 05, 2008

Great writing Dee, ya made me laugh as usual
After Obama becomes President you have to win another Championship because meeting him in the Rose Garden, now that would be brilliant!
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tigernike23 said October 05, 2008

So, when is D. Taurasi going to be running for office? I'd vote for ya...
Biden is a smarta**, but we need a smarta** in Washington that won't put up with the bull thats going on. Honestly though, I had to watch the debate, my Cubs were tanking to your Dodgers. I'm just waiting for Palin to say "oh don't ya know!" in that Alaskan-Canadian-Upper Midwestern accent of hers. I've heard (and someone please correct me if I'm wrong), that she's not doing any more interviews outside of the softballs at Fox News, and Rush, and Hannity, etc. Now come on, she's a big girl. Let's hear what she's got to say. It's pathetic to say she did well by not screwing up, she's not Rex Grossman!
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- mrbecker712 replied October 06, 2008
  
  Obama declined all Fox News interviews until a few weeks ago when O'Reilly finally got him on. Don't spin this to fit the liberal agenda again. Palin did her interviews, and did well for the most part.
  
  Maybe she should go on a rock start our of Europe like Obama. Would she get respect then???
JLannd said October 05, 2008

The Republicans did Palin a great dis-service by not allowing her to interview with the press right away. The Alaskans probably think two people is a group gathering. The winking and backyard lingo was cute, but aside from that she was composed and presented her points well. The not falling on your face thing was the press saying we knew you (Palin) could do better and you showed us. Biden's rant on Bush and McCain was not all that convincing and how many primaries did he win when he ran for President (count currently at "zero").
If it were Palin and Biden for President, she wins. I liked the policies on Education and the Economics of Alaska, she mentioned and they aren't the same ones McCain is presenting to the country. Obama still has the edge at this point. McCain needs to do better in Tuesday's debate in order to have a chance. However, the next President will have his financial hands full with the way the econonmy is going and that is often how a President is judged. For example, Reagan and Clinton are respected because of their economic savy not because of the other things they did. George W. got re-elected because the economy was doing well. Whoever is next, will have a hard time unless the economy turns around.
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mrbecker712 said October 06, 2008

I just think it's funny that I post facts and get negative points for it!!! Haha!!
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- Spotella replied October 06, 2008
  
  Just understand there are a lot of juvililes in the yard. And also people who do NOT want to face reality!
- Graybear2012 replied October 06, 2008
  
  Wow. Are you ever uninformed.
  
  Click here for the top five media conglomerates:
  http://www.corporations.org/media/
  
  Or here for the top ten worldwide:
  http://www.thenation.com/special/bigten.html
  
  Unfortunately, not a "liberal" corporation among them. No wonder we get Paris Hilton/Brittany Spears everyday, all the time, while investigative reporting of real issues has tanked.
  
  And no wonder that the largest transfer of wealth ever in the history of the US (from the hands of many to the hands of a few) has gone unnoticed by the majority of our electorate – fatcat media corporations don't want anyone to know. Simply follow the money.
  
  We truly live in Orwellian times. When you can call these media conglomerates "liberal" and thereby steer the discourse, we're in deep, deep trouble. Lies as truth. *sigh*
  - mrbecker712 replied October 06, 2008
    
    You're telling me NBC, MSNBC, CNN, CBS, and ABC don't have a liberal slant? Are you joking?
- Pinkpanthrrr replied October 06, 2008
  
  you are not stating facts you are spewing IGNORANCE.
  - mrbecker712 replied October 06, 2008
    
    How? Tell me how?
    - BookerT replied October 06, 2008
      
      ur brainwashed like all all the liberals and republicans boris becker.......you watch what you like, research more on backing up what you like and your so far up what you like gynecologists couldnt take you out ur own ass....
      
      Did anyone see the Radicalism Obama last night on Fox:::As open as I am like a 711, Fox is Full of Sh** and BS....Its so sad how they do this and dumb ass Americans beleive it.....Hannity is a scum bum, i want Kimbo Slice to knok out that MoFuka....Dude is more brainwashed than you Becker, but i give you credit, your voicing your opinion as typical as it is.....Keep hope alive, politicians are the joke of the country, we need change, not what Barack Obama is saying cuz thats BS rhetoric...
terra1969 said October 06, 2008

Diana, thank you so much for taking the time to express yourself on this past Thursday's debate. I couldn't have said it any better. Having low expectations placed on you as a VP candidate is as dangerous as placing low expectations on children taking tests with low I.Q.'s. Simply passing thrills everyone and for Sarah, that is a scary thing.
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Annt74 said October 06, 2008

Political Debates = a War of Words = which means nothing
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- Annt74 replied October 06, 2008
  
  one reason i love sports, some players flap their gums all day, some dont (usually those ones dont need to), and then on game day we settle things
Spotella said October 06, 2008

I think this thread could use a joke:

A man died and went to heaven. As he stood in front of

St. Peter at the Pearly Gates, he saw a huge wall of clocks behind him.

He asked, 'What are all those clocks?'

St. Peter answered, 'Those are Lie-Clocks.

Everyone on Earth has a Lie-Clock.

Every time you lie the hands on your clock will move.'

'Oh,' said the man, 'whose clock is that?'

'That's Mother Teresa's. The hands have never moved, indicating

that she never told a lie.'

'Incredible,' said the man. 'And whose clock is that one?'

St. Peter responded, 'That's Abraham Lincoln's clock. The hands have moved twice, telling us that Abe told only two lies in his entire life.'

'Where's President Bush's clock?' asked the man.

'Bush's clock is in Jesus' office.

He's using it as a ceiling fan.

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- Annt74 replied October 07, 2008
  
  so fuuny , so true
LibFan73 said October 06, 2008

Diana! You are awesome! Truly a gift to women's sports!
I wish more athletes would have the balls to speak up the way you do!
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jerseygirl said October 06, 2008

GO OBAMA!!!!
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mrbecker712 said October 07, 2008

Anyone else see ACORN already tryin' to steal this election for Obama? Crazy! And I'm sure it's all coincidental, seeing as how he used to have close ties to them.
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bballfan said October 07, 2008

I thought you might enjoy this one...;)

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JLannd said October 09, 2008

Sara droppin the puck at the Flyers game. We could use some earmarks for hockey. I would definitely vote for that.
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